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	<title>Comments on: Rich Runtime Install Sizes Matrix</title>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
		<link>http://www.mikechambers.com/blog/2009/03/30/rich-runtime-install-sizes-matrix/comment-page-1/#comment-17967</link>
		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 14:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey Mike, any chance of getting this updated?</description>
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		<title>By: Using Silverlight/Expression Blend for eLearning Development &#124; Upside Learning Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.mikechambers.com/blog/2009/03/30/rich-runtime-install-sizes-matrix/comment-page-1/#comment-16497</link>
		<dc:creator>Using Silverlight/Expression Blend for eLearning Development &#124; Upside Learning Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 10:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] for SL3 beta. The runtime installable size too is quite bigger than its Flash counterpart. This article has the comparison [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] for SL3 beta. The runtime installable size too is quite bigger than its Flash counterpart. This article has the comparison [...]</p>
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		<title>By: dbmuse</title>
		<link>http://www.mikechambers.com/blog/2009/03/30/rich-runtime-install-sizes-matrix/comment-page-1/#comment-16272</link>
		<dc:creator>dbmuse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 23:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>micrsoft will hide some of its size via part of dotnet or part of OS.  Then they will tout how they are the smallest...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>micrsoft will hide some of its size via part of dotnet or part of OS.  Then they will tout how they are the smallest&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: People Over Process &#187; Numbers, Volume 8</title>
		<link>http://www.mikechambers.com/blog/2009/03/30/rich-runtime-install-sizes-matrix/comment-page-1/#comment-16110</link>
		<dc:creator>People Over Process &#187; Numbers, Volume 8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 22:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Is that an extra 6 megs in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Is that an extra 6 megs in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Treadway</title>
		<link>http://www.mikechambers.com/blog/2009/03/30/rich-runtime-install-sizes-matrix/comment-page-1/#comment-16105</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Treadway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 16:26:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike,

When you do your post comparing downloads of Desktop RIA&#039;s you should considering including Curl www.curl.com.  Curl&#039;s RTE provides out of browser and off-line support similar to AIR.  Curl is used mostly in enterprises and therefore is less well known, but is getting more visibility as large companies consider their RIA strategy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike,</p>
<p>When you do your post comparing downloads of Desktop RIA&#8217;s you should considering including Curl <a href="http://www.curl.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.curl.com</a>.  Curl&#8217;s RTE provides out of browser and off-line support similar to AIR.  Curl is used mostly in enterprises and therefore is less well known, but is getting more visibility as large companies consider their RIA strategy.</p>
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		<title>By: People Over Process &#187; Links for April 2nd through April 3rd</title>
		<link>http://www.mikechambers.com/blog/2009/03/30/rich-runtime-install-sizes-matrix/comment-page-1/#comment-16071</link>
		<dc:creator>People Over Process &#187; Links for April 2nd through April 3rd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 18:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Rich Runtime Install Sizes Matrix at Mike Chambers [...]</description>
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		<title>By: People Over Process &#187; RIA Weekly #48 - Mobile Mania!</title>
		<link>http://www.mikechambers.com/blog/2009/03/30/rich-runtime-install-sizes-matrix/comment-page-1/#comment-16070</link>
		<dc:creator>People Over Process &#187; RIA Weekly #48 - Mobile Mania!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 17:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] RIA Download sizes from Mike Chambers - how much does this matter? Ryan says that Adobe does studies on completed downloads, and there is a significant drop-off at some point. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] RIA Download sizes from Mike Chambers &#8211; how much does this matter? Ryan says that Adobe does studies on completed downloads, and there is a significant drop-off at some point. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: sascha/hdrs</title>
		<link>http://www.mikechambers.com/blog/2009/03/30/rich-runtime-install-sizes-matrix/comment-page-1/#comment-16068</link>
		<dc:creator>sascha/hdrs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 04:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Flash Player 10 installs in Win98/ME? I thought legacy OS support was dropped since version 8?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Flash Player 10 installs in Win98/ME? I thought legacy OS support was dropped since version 8?</p>
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		<title>By: fabio</title>
		<link>http://www.mikechambers.com/blog/2009/03/30/rich-runtime-install-sizes-matrix/comment-page-1/#comment-16066</link>
		<dc:creator>fabio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 21:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you can make a fair statement (and you should do, adobe) if you say that silverlight is going to compete with java and not with flash, cause it&#039;s already following the same path.
It&#039;s not just a question of download time, huge plugins are going to create weight on your browser, microsoft is well known for its bloatware, you can&#039;t deny that, and java... well, you know.

I hope adobe will keep it neat, adding layers as Flex instead of making a big melting pot, but &quot;official&quot; frameworks should be compiled and cached on a plugin level.

Air on the other hand is an extended browser not a VM, and it&#039;s why I don&#039;t like it very much even if I hoped for years (a decade! omg) to handle FS from flash. AIR it&#039;s not really part of the flash platform, you don&#039;t need to know AS to make applications. 
You should use flash projector for desktop based client, FS API wouldn&#039;t double the size.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you can make a fair statement (and you should do, adobe) if you say that silverlight is going to compete with java and not with flash, cause it&#8217;s already following the same path.<br />
It&#8217;s not just a question of download time, huge plugins are going to create weight on your browser, microsoft is well known for its bloatware, you can&#8217;t deny that, and java&#8230; well, you know.</p>
<p>I hope adobe will keep it neat, adding layers as Flex instead of making a big melting pot, but &#8220;official&#8221; frameworks should be compiled and cached on a plugin level.</p>
<p>Air on the other hand is an extended browser not a VM, and it&#8217;s why I don&#8217;t like it very much even if I hoped for years (a decade! omg) to handle FS from flash. AIR it&#8217;s not really part of the flash platform, you don&#8217;t need to know AS to make applications.<br />
You should use flash projector for desktop based client, FS API wouldn&#8217;t double the size.</p>
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		<title>By: silverlight3 ????? FlashPlayer 10 ?-AIR &#124; FlashDev</title>
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		<dc:creator>silverlight3 ????? FlashPlayer 10 ?-AIR &#124; FlashDev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 08:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ??? ???? ?????? ??? ?-client ??? ??? ???????????? ??&quot;?. ????? ?? Mike Chambers ?? ??? ????? ??? ??????????? ??????, ???? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] ??? ???? ?????? ??? ?-client ??? ??? ???????????? ??&#8221;?. ????? ?? Mike Chambers ?? ??? ????? ??? ??????????? ??????, ???? [...]</p>
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