Comments on: ActionScript 3 and ECMAScript 4 http://www.mikechambers.com/blog/2008/08/14/actionscript-3-and-ecmascript-4/ code = joy Fri, 02 Dec 2011 01:36:37 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: Tyler Larson http://www.mikechambers.com/blog/2008/08/14/actionscript-3-and-ecmascript-4/comment-page-2/#comment-24777 Tyler Larson Wed, 10 Nov 2010 18:11:15 +0000 http://www.mikechambers.com/blog/?p=1315#comment-24777 What is ActionScript4 going to be? Colin Moock just pointed out that before all of this everyone knew what was coming because Adobe used EcmaScript as their spec. This was great transparency for us developers and gave us lots to look forward to. Now that all of this has happen we have no idea what's happening. It has been years with no news at all. Is the game plan to sperate from the open source community? Is the plan to revert to the newest version of Ecma? From my point of view it is better to follow some spec and have people involved in this process than keeping everything locked up. When I first heard about all of this I was against reverting ActionScript but after I have spent more time with both I think it would be smart to have everything in one language closer to EcmaScript5/3.1. It opens many doors and you could use a lot of the optimizations that people have been able to achieve in the newer browsers. A more open, faster flash runtime will make everyone happy in the long run. You will get a lot of bitching at first but you will end up in a better place if you follow the standards because it is the direction everyone will be headed in. I would also be fine with a multi-language option like .Net does. We already have AVM1/2 why not have 3 scrap the other two and convert the swf bytecode before running it to a single more powerful AVM. It could enable runtime evaluation of JavaScript and newer EcmaScript 5. What is ActionScript4 going to be? Colin Moock just pointed out that before all of this everyone knew what was coming because Adobe used EcmaScript as their spec. This was great transparency for us developers and gave us lots to look forward to. Now that all of this has happen we have no idea what’s happening. It has been years with no news at all. Is the game plan to sperate from the open source community? Is the plan to revert to the newest version of Ecma?

From my point of view it is better to follow some spec and have people involved in this process than keeping everything locked up. When I first heard about all of this I was against reverting ActionScript but after I have spent more time with both I think it would be smart to have everything in one language closer to EcmaScript5/3.1. It opens many doors and you could use a lot of the optimizations that people have been able to achieve in the newer browsers. A more open, faster flash runtime will make everyone happy in the long run. You will get a lot of bitching at first but you will end up in a better place if you follow the standards because it is the direction everyone will be headed in.

I would also be fine with a multi-language option like .Net does. We already have AVM1/2 why not have 3 scrap the other two and convert the swf bytecode before running it to a single more powerful AVM. It could enable runtime evaluation of JavaScript and newer EcmaScript 5.

]]> By: Why the HTML5/JS community should respect the Flash community | Blog | Miller Medeiros http://www.mikechambers.com/blog/2008/08/14/actionscript-3-and-ecmascript-4/comment-page-2/#comment-24757 Why the HTML5/JS community should respect the Flash community | Blog | Miller Medeiros Tue, 02 Nov 2010 07:55:04 +0000 http://www.mikechambers.com/blog/?p=1315#comment-24757 [...] as close as it seems, the language is open-source and based on a “standard” (ECMAScript 4 was abandoned before conclusion), the SDK is open-source, the SWF file format is published and can be implemented by anyone, the [...] [...] as close as it seems, the language is open-source and based on a “standard” (ECMAScript 4 was abandoned before conclusion), the SDK is open-source, the SWF file format is published and can be implemented by anyone, the [...]

]]> By: nwebb » Flash vs HTML5 - and a few points for HTML5 advocates to consider :) http://www.mikechambers.com/blog/2008/08/14/actionscript-3-and-ecmascript-4/comment-page-2/#comment-17058 nwebb » Flash vs HTML5 - and a few points for HTML5 advocates to consider :) Wed, 07 Oct 2009 11:29:56 +0000 http://www.mikechambers.com/blog/?p=1315#comment-17058 [...] (known as ECMAScript 3.1) and I guess Adobe couldn’t just hang around. You can read about that here. In Flex 4 there is also a declarative graphics language called FXG. Why didn’t Adobe use [...] [...] (known as ECMAScript 3.1) and I guess Adobe couldn’t just hang around. You can read about that here. In Flex 4 there is also a declarative graphics language called FXG. Why didn’t Adobe use [...]

]]> By: Tech tabloids, Project Harmony, and the proposal for a ‘Flash’ tag in HTML5 | Commented Out http://www.mikechambers.com/blog/2008/08/14/actionscript-3-and-ecmascript-4/comment-page-1/#comment-16378 Tech tabloids, Project Harmony, and the proposal for a ‘Flash’ tag in HTML5 | Commented Out Wed, 17 Jun 2009 23:06:55 +0000 http://www.mikechambers.com/blog/?p=1315#comment-16378 [...] The result was quite the opposite, as Adobe was now the odd man out, though some said that it didn’t affect Flash at [...] [...] The result was quite the opposite, as Adobe was now the odd man out, though some said that it didn’t affect Flash at [...]

]]> By: Prospects - Cheap Ebooks, Tools » Blog Archive » ECMAScript Harmony: New Life for JavaScript http://www.mikechambers.com/blog/2008/08/14/actionscript-3-and-ecmascript-4/comment-page-1/#comment-15963 Prospects - Cheap Ebooks, Tools » Blog Archive » ECMAScript Harmony: New Life for JavaScript Fri, 13 Mar 2009 08:50:24 +0000 http://www.mikechambers.com/blog/?p=1315#comment-15963 [...] at Ajaxian, and the reactions from other JavaScript notables like John Resig, Douglas Crockford, Mike Chambers, and Alex Russell make worthwhile reading (with varying levels of technical detail). Also, Episode [...] [...] at Ajaxian, and the reactions from other JavaScript notables like John Resig, Douglas Crockford, Mike Chambers, and Alex Russell make worthwhile reading (with varying levels of technical detail). Also, Episode [...]

]]> By: Julianne http://www.mikechambers.com/blog/2008/08/14/actionscript-3-and-ecmascript-4/comment-page-1/#comment-15898 Julianne Sun, 01 Mar 2009 22:00:25 +0000 http://www.mikechambers.com/blog/?p=1315#comment-15898 wasn't there a new release for this? wasn’t there a new release for this?

]]> By: Keep an Open Eye Eye, Sir » JavaScript 2/ECMAScript 4 Delayed http://www.mikechambers.com/blog/2008/08/14/actionscript-3-and-ecmascript-4/comment-page-1/#comment-15418 Keep an Open Eye Eye, Sir » JavaScript 2/ECMAScript 4 Delayed Sun, 04 Jan 2009 21:50:55 +0000 http://www.mikechambers.com/blog/?p=1315#comment-15418 [...] and Web 2.o in general - so it is very notable that work on ECMAScript 4 has been partitioned or delayed depending on who you consult. Clearly there is a functional and learning burden making the shift to [...] [...] and Web 2.o in general – so it is very notable that work on ECMAScript 4 has been partitioned or delayed depending on who you consult. Clearly there is a functional and learning burden making the shift to [...]

]]> By: Sundunny » M$ can suck it, or I want my ECMA-4 http://www.mikechambers.com/blog/2008/08/14/actionscript-3-and-ecmascript-4/comment-page-1/#comment-14974 Sundunny » M$ can suck it, or I want my ECMA-4 Fri, 14 Nov 2008 01:05:24 +0000 http://www.mikechambers.com/blog/?p=1315#comment-14974 [...] Grant Skinner Mike Chambers Hank Williams Written by sundev in: Uncategorized [...] [...] Grant Skinner Mike Chambers Hank Williams Written by sundev in: Uncategorized [...]

]]> By: Riality.de | ES4 is dead, long live Actionscript http://www.mikechambers.com/blog/2008/08/14/actionscript-3-and-ecmascript-4/comment-page-1/#comment-14915 Riality.de | ES4 is dead, long live Actionscript Wed, 12 Nov 2008 17:47:03 +0000 http://www.mikechambers.com/blog/?p=1315#comment-14915 [...] AS3 Orphaned - Microsoft to Blame? | Ru Roh! Adobe Screwed By EcmaScript Standards Agreement |ActionScript 3 and ECMAScript 4 | Thoughts on Harmony | Harmony [...] [...] AS3 Orphaned – Microsoft to Blame? | Ru Roh! Adobe Screwed By EcmaScript Standards Agreement |ActionScript 3 and ECMAScript 4 | Thoughts on Harmony | Harmony [...]

]]> By: ES4 est-il mort ? Les dessous de table en images. | tweenpix http://www.mikechambers.com/blog/2008/08/14/actionscript-3-and-ecmascript-4/comment-page-1/#comment-14455 ES4 est-il mort ? Les dessous de table en images. | tweenpix Fri, 17 Oct 2008 09:55:30 +0000 http://www.mikechambers.com/blog/?p=1315#comment-14455 [...] conclusion du billet de Mike Chambers va dans ce sens d’ailleurs, et se veut bien plus rassurante encore: [...] [...] conclusion du billet de Mike Chambers va dans ce sens d’ailleurs, et se veut bien plus rassurante encore: [...]

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